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Uh, you remember that really big and exciting and explosive and strange and unprecedented and mysterious and wonderful and adjectival thing that’s supposed to be coming to this blog today?  Well, er, it’s coming tomorrow.  No, really it is.  And it’ll be big.  Did I say that part already?  I just can’t post its strange explosive unprecedented wonderfulness today because I’m completely wiped out from my whirlwind trip to NYC and I have to teach a class in a couple of hours and then get interviewed by Dennis Prager at 2 pm.  So instead, I’m going to ask a favor—aside from voting for me in the all-important “Best Educatical Blog” competition, I mean. 

I really don’t know what to do about this Dennis Prager interview.  I figure that the chances of his listeners tuning in to hear me and then deciding to buy my book are roughly zero point zero or lower, so should I have some fun with this?  Should I be a preternaturally patient, deliberative kind of “liberal” or should I scream that private property is theft and call for the dictatorship of the proletariat?  Should I try to recruit listeners to the We Are All Giant Nuclear Fireball Now Party?  (Now’s my chance, right?) Should I speak in tongues?  Or worse, should I speak in French?  The options before me are overwhelming.  I have no idea what to do.  And you are the only ones I can turn to for advice!  You are the only ones who can help!

Thank you, dear readers.  And stay tuned for tomorrow’s really exciting etc. announcement.  It’ll be way bigger than Arbitrary But Fun.

Update, 2:40 pm:  Well, talk about anticlimactic.  I debated the usual right-wing talking point about Larry Summers for a bit, then insisted that the nature v. nurture debate is alive and well in all corners of the campus, even (or especially) Women’s Studies, then dealt with a few random complaints about Latin American Studies here and pro-life opinions there, and then, twenty minutes in, my phone cut out.  Why?  Because I’m in the middle of a snowstorm and I have the worst phone service imaginable.  I tried to continue the interview via cell phone but could barely hear a thing, and they could barely hear me.  Anyway, Dennis Prager didn’t cut me off.  It’s just my luck, and just my life.  I hate the dang phone.

Oh, well.  At least there’s tomorrow’s event to look forward to.

Posted by on 12/07 at 06:27 AM
  1. Ask Prager if you can take an oath with your hand on Foucault’s Discipline and Punish.

    Posted by Crazy Little Thing  on  12/07  at  07:50 AM
  2. You could play up the hyperkinetic angle.

    According to Prager:

    Only four types of individuals can deny the threat to civilization posed by the violence-supporting segment of Islam: the willfully naive, America-haters, Jew-haters and those afraid to confront evil.

    You could try to be all four of those types. Okay, three, I know you wouldn’t even want to pretend to be a Jew-hater. In other words you could go anti-Santorum:

    He delivered a nearly hourlong speech, warning of the dangers of not confronting praising “Islamic fascism” and its budding alliances with anti-American countries such as Venezuela, North Korea and Cuba.

    “We are sleepwalking through the storm, triumph” Santorum Berube said. “How do those who deny this evil grand scheme propose to save us from help us join these people? By negotiating through the U.N. or directly with Iran? By firing Don Rumsfeld, (and) now getting rid of John Bolton? That’s going to solve the problem? !”

    Oh, and I second Crazy Little Thing’s suggestion.

    Posted by  on  12/07  at  08:17 AM
  3. Can it be both BIG and ARBITRARY, BUT FUN? I need me more fun.

    Posted by Roxanne  on  12/07  at  08:31 AM
  4. Only four types of individuals can deny the threat to civilization posed by the violence-supporting segment of Islam

    Good of him to try to nuance his prejudice somewhat with ‘violence-supporting,’ but I suppose, if you were feeling frisky, you could ask him why he has a particular need to single out Islam.

    Frisky question, perhaps, but not very fun.

    Shoot for fun.

    Posted by  on  12/07  at  08:50 AM
  5. Take it 100 percent seriously. Express bilious, visceral loathing for him and everyone who listens to him, at every conversational opportunity. Call him the vilest names you can think of, without ever veering into FCC-unfriendly territory. Ridicule him. If he asks a stupid question, say “That’s a stupid question; I’ll wait while you think of a better one” and let the air go dead. Don’t play with him, because you better believe he’s not playing. We think of these people as entertainers at our peril. They are not entertainers; they are propagandists. By being there at all, you are serving his ends - your only opportunity at this point to salvage the encounter is to make him regret he ever heard of you.

    Sorry if this isn’t the kind of happy fun comment you were soliciting. I can’t take these fuckers anymore, and I’m nobody (I’ve written two books, but they’re about jazz, so no one gives a shit but my mom and my wife), which means nobody will invite me onto a right-wing talk show to berate them, so I must encourage you and others who do get such invitations to do it, for the good of everyone who’s not a Christian fascist (or an enabler of same, as Prager is in fact Jewish).

    Posted by pdf  on  12/07  at  08:56 AM
  6. Ridicule him. If he asks a stupid question, say “That’s a stupid question; I’ll wait while you think of a better one” and let the air go dead.

    And then Dr. Gregory Bérubé can let his team of young cultural studies professors go out and test for the most crushing refutations of Prager’s talking points.  Yeah, I love that show.

    But I feel I must warn the good professor that certain Crooked Timber commenters are not enamoured of the flippant approach:

    Horowitz, I think, did a better job of restating his own opinions and thereby getting them out there; Berube, on the other hand, said little or nothing to explain why he disagrees with Horowitz or sees Horowitz’s arguments as dangerous and inane....Berube came across, by and large, as a fairly stereotypical liberal, sneering at his enemy’s views rather than combating them.

    If we don’t take criticism seriously, it’s hard for those who don’t already agree with us to take us seriously. Berube shows his own political Limbaugh-ish personality throughout most of this exchange as much as Horowitz does in his tv appearances.

    As a CTer I’d like to emphasize my agreement with passing fancy and michael sullivan—berube comes off as flip and uninterested in debate.

    And a couple of these commenters hastened to add that they’re on Bérubé’s “side” in the debate; they just don’t think the “leftist” arguments were made well.

    So, The Left must take criticisms seriously, even when they are deliberately mendacious criticisms advanced by fundamentally unserious people.  I’d bear that in mind when going into the den of Dennis “Religious Tests for Congressmen” Prager.

    Posted by  on  12/07  at  09:34 AM
  7. Don’t be too radical, or Michael Berube will use you as an example of deranged leftists on his blog in the future. Just ask Daniel Lazare.

    And I agree with mds on not being flippant or coming across as dismissive - with winger having no sense of humor and stuff. Just promote the sensible centrist positions of the WAAGNFNP, and you’ll be fine.

    Posted by  on  12/07  at  10:10 AM
  8. Michael;
    You probably have heard that Prager’s point about the destruction of American, better yet, Western Civ would be triggered if Congressman-elect Ellison took a picture being sworn in with the Qu’ran is false. Seven years ago, an American ambassador was sworn in on the Qu’ran and, of course, Western Civ did fall and “America’s Worst President Ever” stole the election.  Oops, that’s not how the Pragers see it.  That this allegedly religous Jew thinks that the only book to swear in American officials, a Christian bible,(he does not care which one) is a book that he must believe is traife. He is blissfuly unaware that a Rothschild, in 19th century England refused to sit for a Parliment seat that he kept being elected to until they allowed him to swear in on a Jewish bible becoming the first Jew to sit.  Yes, Prager is insane.  So what does one do in Sleepy LA town when one appears on the radio with a crazy person?
    Farce, satire and other uses of humor that you know so well and remeber no matter what happens in that company you are the only sane person.
    How was the NYC event with Eric B.,and Bill S.?
    I wanted to go but I had a conflict with a meeting.
    Have you heard about your former senator-to-be Little Ricky going crazy on the floor of the Senate for an hour?

    Posted by  on  12/07  at  10:11 AM
  9. Fart jokes are popular during morning drive time. I’m not sure what works at 2 p.m. Maybe updates on Brittney Spears sightings. Was she at your talk in NYC wearing a WAAGNFN Party shirt? If not you can still claim that ‘some people say’ she was there.

    Posted by  on  12/07  at  10:18 AM
  10. Answer all questions in monosyllables.  Don’t explain anything.

    Michael Berube, Welcome to the show!


    Tell me, do you think godless Moslems should be allowed to swear into office on the Koran?


    Care to elaborate?


    Don’t you believe that this is a Christian countury?


    You’ll never get invited back, but you will certainly make him sweat.

    Captcha: “real” As in “Get real, Dennis.”

    Posted by Aaron Barlow  on  12/07  at  10:23 AM
  11. BushYouth, there were two women there in WAAGNFN tee-shirts.  No, really.  There were.

    But I don’t think either would be happy to have been mistaken for Spears.  Both were not only younger, but looked way too intelligent.

    Posted by Aaron Barlow  on  12/07  at  10:26 AM
  12. If we’ve had the chance to learn anything in the last few years:

    1)Develop a strategy to achieve what you want to achieve,
    2) use overwhelming force to win the initial phase of operations, and
    3) prepare for an insurgent counter campaign.

    Humbly speaking, but after seeing any number of well meaning and informed people get chewed up by these professional hatchet wielders of ideology, I’d initially frame the arguments that you want to make, using overwhelming force, by preparing 2-3 themes that you want to hammer and then phase 3, always steer the conversation back to where you want it to go - these guys do whack a mole very well (just when you thing you’ve got em they dissengage and pop up somewhere else).  That being said, remember hearts and minds so do use humor.

    Don’t underestimate or misunderstand what their goals are (and it’s not to give you a platform to disseminate knowledge and wisdom it’s to satisfy his audiences need for liberal blood).

    Recent example: Cavuto and Krugman on Fox, O’Rielly and anyone, Limbaugh and....uh, nevermind he doesn’t have the balls to actually have guests that could challenge him.

    But I’m sure that I haven’t said anything that the leader of the WAAGNFNP doesn’t already know.  Best of luck.

    Well, er, it’s coming tomorrow.

    Threat level today remains at Desert Avacado.

    Posted by  on  12/07  at  10:36 AM
  13. I’d actually recommend serious.  As one or two people above have said: the anti-liberal bile is a serious matter.  Prager is a serious propagandist who convinces people that we are all foaming-at-the-mouth moral relativists who would be happy to live in an Islamic state.  He’s serious, at least insofar as he convinces people to seriously hate liberals, building up an already dangerous eliminationist (to use David Neiwert’s word) feelings.

    So I’d really like to hear someone answer his stupidities with actual sophistication and thoughtfulness.  His listeners might not be convinced, but they might at least realize the issues are more complicated than Prager makes them out to be.

    Posted by Stephen Frug  on  12/07  at  10:56 AM
  14. Uh, make that “building *on* already dangerous eliminationist feelings”.  Oh dear Lord I need some more coffee.

    Posted by Stephen Frug  on  12/07  at  10:58 AM
  15. Please, take this interview seriously. I have listened to Prager a couple of times and he is no quite like the aggressive punditry of Limbaugh, Hanity etc…
    I still don’t agree with about 80% of what he says, but you can have a conversation with him. That is worth something, at least. He always prides himself on how he “prefers clarity of agreement” which is to a large extent true.

    He will let you talk and state your point and he will not act like you are being cross-examined, like Hugh Hewitt always does when he has a liberal on.

    But he will confront you with his “pearls of wisdom” his deep convictions about the world which are rather ridiculous and mostly wrong:

    -The Bible is the source of our values and our morality
    -The university is a bastion of stupidity and cowardice, there is no “wisdom” to be found in academia
    -The left acts on behalf of “feelings” and “emotions” and is incapable of rational policy
    (I am no lefty, but he goes too far in his blanket condemnation)
    ...etc… you get the drift

    I would really ask you to take it seriously; challenge his worldview - not that he will be swayed, mind you, - but do it in a measured, reasonable way and without too much rhetorical hyperbole so that you can’t be dismissed as a prankster or a representative of the fringe of society… he will, of course, still believe that his view corresponds with the “mainstream” of American society, but that’s all right, everyone needs some illusions to be happy.

    Posted by  on  12/07  at  11:07 AM
  16. Jim in STL probably has it right. Though I would combine it somewhat with Aaron’s monosyllables in the following way: Remember that dead air is his problem, not yours. It is his show. Short answers work well. If it becomes a next-person-that-says-something-loses scenario don’t bail him out - (However,if you are like me, this is much easier to say than do.

    My whimisical alternative would be to only agree to talk about hockey.

    Hockey off topic trivia: Unlikely compatriots in The Tower of Ice department. Leonard Cohen says he was the 9th-best defenseman on his grammar school hockey team.
    But does he make the all-time all-Buddhist team?

    Posted by  on  12/07  at  11:17 AM
  17. Change the subject. You’re booked as a Left, a bit of rhetorical dietary fiber in a process that purports to metabolize observations of the worlds around us. (Gross as this little image plays, the real talk-radio thing is really disgusting.)

    Don’t play along. Don’t be the Left, be an Outsider. WLAtLA discusses novels from the Gilded Age and the Roaring 20’s centered on wealthy outsiders that want to fit but don’t. I’m thinking that much of the right-wing talk audience feels left out. Connect with that, ignore the Left/Right script.

    The congressman from Minnesota is an outsider because of his religion. Should he try to fit in? Can he fit? Etc.

    captcha: shall. King James or Shakespeare?

    Posted by black dog barking  on  12/07  at  11:30 AM
  18. I discovered that I can listen live(!!) over the tubes used to send my internets—and yours too, I pray! The name’s KVOI—the Voice of Freedom outta Tucson Arizona!

    • the tag line:

    You don’t have be afraid of talk radio any more! Tucson now has talk for your family.

    • and the magic code is as follows:



    Posted by  on  12/07  at  11:39 AM
  19. Don’t be too radical, or Michael Berube will use you as an example of deranged leftists on his blog in the future. Just ask Daniel Lazare.

    Oh, Christian, are you still on about that Dan Lazare?  Well, OK, I promise you this, from one loyal WAAGNFNP member to another.  If, in the course of my Prager interview, I (a) say “I’m totally opposed to what the U.S. is doing in Iraq. Therefore, I would no more support U.S. elections than I would support German elections in France during World War II,” (b) claim to be one of the “good guys currently engaged in trying to counteract the murderous Islamic extremists” (Medved’s setup line, to which Lazare assented) and then (c) follow this with “you’re actually talking to one of the few leftists, if I do say so myself, with the courage to defend the Soviet incursion in Afghanistan,” then yes, most certainly, I will mock myself mercilessly on this blog.  Not for being “radical,” but for being fatuous.

    Posted by Michael  on  12/07  at  12:16 PM
  20. I think you should go right into the whole foot massage debate from Pulp Fiction. Isn’t this going to end up being about incommensurablity?

    Posted by  on  12/07  at  12:17 PM
  21. According to Prager’s website, “Mr. Prager periodically conducts orchestras, and has introduced hundreds of thousands of people to classical music.” Ask him what he thinks of Wagner.

    Posted by Crazy Little Thing  on  12/07  at  12:19 PM
  22. Prager is Crossfire, and you are Jon Stewart.

    Posted by  on  12/07  at  12:44 PM
  23. Michael-baiting is fun! Even though it might be construed as disloyal behavior by the WAAGNFNP Political Correctness Committee. I will force myself not to defend Lazare’s perfectly reasonable points today. Or his not-so-reasonable ones, either. Anyway, I agree with the “please be serious"-people as far as the Prager interview is concerned. Making fun of people in writing is one thing - they have time to think about an appropriately funny response - but done in person it can come across as loutish, especially if the target is not just some dumb bully (if you ever get on Big O’s show, mockery is perfectly justified there).

    captcha: morning, as in “as bright as the morning star - the GNF.”

    Posted by  on  12/07  at  12:45 PM
  24. pdf has it right.

    So is there any chance someone wants to start up a shop a Cafe Press or another t-shirt site and print up some WAAGNFPN t-shirts. Feel free to make some money off it. It would be great if it had WAAGNFPN with a smiling mushroom cloud or something like that.

    Posted by  on  12/07  at  01:13 PM
  25. I was looking forward to hearing you speak in tongues, Michael, but I think that the people who want seriousness are probably right.

    Also, I’m not sure that it’s true that nobody who is listening will want to buy your book.  People who tune into the program may not buy it, but radios are heard by everyone else in the room as well.

    Posted by  on  12/07  at  01:56 PM
  26. There are two kinds of radio interviews, Michael. Ones where the guest wears clothing (think of Tom Wolfe or Gay Talese here), and ones where they present their views in the nude (Henry Kissinger and John Paul II). Which side are you on? Prager apparently sports only a thong and some glitter when he’s on air. I don’t recommend this. I’ll be listening!

    Posted by  on  12/07  at  02:15 PM
  27. Yet here, Michael! Pick up, pick up for shame!
    The phone rings in the corner of your desk,
    And you are stay’d for.
    There ... my blessing with thee!
    And these few precepts in thy memory
    Look thou character. Give thy thoughts no pixel,
    Nor any unproportion’d post his upload.
    Be thou familiar, but by no means vulgar.
    Those minions thou hast, and their adoption tried,
    Grapple them to thy soul with tubes of teh internets;
    But do not dull thy palm with entertainment
    Of each new-hatch’d, unfledg’d troll.  Beware
    Of entrance to a FrontPage but, being in,
    Bear’t that th’ opposed may beware of thee.
    Give every man thy ear, but few thy email address;
    Take D.Ho’s censure, but publish thy judgement.
    Costly thy blogue as thy purse can buy,
    But not express’d in fancy; rich, not gaudy;
    For the website oft proclaims the man;
    And they in University Park of the best rank and station
    Are of a most select and generous chief in that.
    Neither a Hezbollah, nor a wingnut be;
    For batshit insanity oft loses both itself and friend,
    And crazy talk dulls the edge of husbandry.
    This above all: to thine own GNF be true,
    And it must follow, as the nuclear winter the fireball,
    Thou canst not then be non-radioactive to any man.
    Farewell; my blessing season this in thee!

    Posted by John Protevi  on  12/07  at  02:24 PM
  28. Shorter John Protevi:

    Plastics Fireballs

    Posted by  on  12/07  at  03:22 PM
  29. Should I speak in tongues?  Or worse, should I speak in French?

    No, better yet:  Middle English!  I hear yours is quite gorgeous.

    Posted by Dr. Virago  on  12/07  at  03:31 PM
  30. should I have some fun with this? 

    Should I be a preternaturally patient, deliberative kind of “liberal” or should I scream that private property is theft and call for the dictatorship of the proletariat?

    Should I try to recruit listeners to the We Are All Giant Nuclear Fireball Now Party? 

    Should I speak in tongues? 

    Or worse, should I speak in French?

    I am pretty sure you probably might not want to mention that bit about the Holocaust Museum Commission thang.  Nor discuss the ramifications of Kabbalah on the psyche of neo-cons. 

    Michael-baiting is fun! Even though it might be construed as disloyal behavior by the WAAGNFNP Political Correctness Committee.
    Nay, such efforts are necessary to strengthen the offensive nature of the party, while it defends itself from the madness of those opposed to the GNF, as well as those afraid of the GNF.  Fear not and bait forth, chum if you must; although we highly recommend that one only use halibut for that purpose, as salmon smoking hot on a cedar plank is our drug of choice.

    Minister of Offense and Defense

    Posted by  on  12/07  at  03:37 PM
  31. Pilgrimage to 3Topia: or, How Michael Bérubé Journeyed to the Land that Time Forgot to have an Audience with O3T

    Once upon a time in a land far away and a time long ago yadda yadda yadda . . . . and so forth . . . on a mighty quest.

    Episode 1: The Cap of Command

    Before Bérubé, aka The Supplicant, can actually assume the Cap he must be purged of every last trace of norquist particles and rove rays. Even one part in a bagooglezillion would set of a reaction between cap and caput that would render the GNF impossible. Though his heart be pure, his vision clear, and his head atop is shoulders, not even Bérubé has been able to escape the pestilence that has lain upon the land during the Shrub Years.

    The Supplicant grasps the Post of Purification and Purgation:


    That task completed, now Bérubé inscribes his name on the Palimpsest of Potentiation:


    What the picture doesn’t show are the mighty King Cobras who challenged The Supplicant. Only his mastery of polyrhythms allowed him to evade their wily weaving ways.

    At last, Bérubé enters into the presence of the Cap Itself:

    Presentation of the Cap

    But what is the next stage in the journey?

    Only Toothy knows:

    Counselor Toothy

    Will he/she/it tell The Supplicant? Will TS find the decoder ring in his breakfast cereal? Will TS know in which direction to turn the dial?

    Stay tuned for the next episode: Atom Boy and the Mighty Cloud of Joy

    captcha: “military”—Does TS display military bearing or what?

    Posted by Bill Benzon  on  12/07  at  03:45 PM
  32. "What is interesting here is that he agreed with me,…”

    Pwnd by a snowstorm, Michael’s phone went out in the middle of the Prager interview, and the conversation never really had a chance to develop. So Prager, wrapping up the segment, got to claim Michael as an ally. Weird.

    On a happier note: captcha: trial

    Posted by  on  12/07  at  03:51 PM
  33. No matter what question he asks, reply with “No Child Left Behind.”

    Posted by  on  12/07  at  03:55 PM
  34. No weird. Rove rays and norquist particles.

    Posted by Bill Benzon  on  12/07  at  03:55 PM
  35. Rove rays and norquist particles

    And there’s no do-overs when it comes to that.

    I’m wondering if this portends bloggus interuptus.

    Posted by  on  12/07  at  04:08 PM
  36. Toothy: What is your favorite color band?

    The Supplicant: Blue Cheer. No, Yel… AAAAAUUUUUUUUUGGGGGHHHH! ...

    Posted by  on  12/07  at  04:31 PM
  37. You have internets but no telephones?  You should be skyping, man.

    Posted by Blar  on  12/07  at  05:27 PM
  38. So you never got to ask Prager how we can ALL get into the Tent of Consent with the Christian Nationalists?  Should we just drop the whole Ellison/Quran thing? Why can’t we ALL pledge our oblivion to the coming Christian rapture?  Why only Jews?  It’s hardly Christian of them.

    Don’t shy away from the hard questions, Michael.

    h/t Jews on First

    Posted by Tracy  on  12/07  at  05:58 PM
  39. Well, the snowstorm may have stopped the radio interview, but there’s one thing it can’t stop:


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    Happy Birthday to the WAAGNFNP’S Minister of Visual Propaganda, Lyricist Pro-tem, and Storyteller extraordinaire.

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    Posted by Oaktown Girl  on  12/07  at  06:06 PM
  40. As I was listening I thought to myself, “Hey, Michael’s doing pretty well here.” And then it sounded like someone broke into your house, hosed you down, and began applying death rays to your skull. Thank goodness it was just bad reception. (A big Happy Birthday shout out to Bill Benzon, Minister of Visual Truth.)

    Posted by  on  12/07  at  06:32 PM
  41. Yes, happy birthday, Bill!  And thanks for being my Virgil on that Voyage.

    So you never got to ask Prager how we can ALL get into the Tent of Consent with the Christian Nationalists?

    Nope, I never did.  Nor did I get a chance to get off my line about how I’d rather have someone with his hand on the Koran pledging to uphold the Constitution than someone with his hand on the Bible working to undermine the Constitution.  I really wanted to field-test that one.

    Posted by Michael  on  12/07  at  06:32 PM
  42. I can’t vote for you yet, Michael (or for Sadly, NO!, for that matter).

    As to the conversation at hand, how about “than someone with his hand on the Bible while using the Constitution for toilet paper”?  I guess that puts me in the ‘unserious crowd’, but since ‘serious’ seems to be the definition of people who voted for or supported the war in Iraq, I’m happy to be unserious.

    Posted by ifthethunderdontgetya  on  12/07  at  08:41 PM
  43. It’s voting time!  Tell those IvyGaters they’ll never take you alive, Michael.

    Posted by ifthethunderdontgetya  on  12/07  at  09:25 PM
  44. "I’m in the middle of a snowstorm and I have the worst phone service imaginable.  I tried to continue the interview via cell phone but could barely hear a thing, and they could barely hear me.  Anyway, Dennis Prager didn’t cut me off.  It’s just my luck, and just my life.  I hate the dang phone.”

    What’s the worst thing that could happen--an offer to host a talk show of your own?

    Posted by  on  12/08  at  12:07 AM
  45. Thanks, guys.

    You realize, Michael, that though you may now be safely back in the lands that’s inaccessible on all four points of the compass, I haven’t actually finished my Virgil mission yet. There is danger yet ahead. But then, as a 7th dan black belt in the dangeral arts, you live with this stuff every day, don’t you?

    Posted by Bill Benzon  on  12/08  at  06:38 AM
  46. Every day, Bill.  It is the path I have chosen.

    Though I have to admit that not every day involves King Cobras.

    Posted by Michael  on  12/08  at  08:51 AM
  47. Well, you know how it is, when you’re on a mission to save the galaxy, the danger level goes up.

    Posted by Bill Benzon  on  12/08  at  09:34 AM
  48. Editors’ Note: It was twenty-five years ago today that John Lennon was murdered outside the Dakota building on Central Park West in New York City. We doubt many CounterPunchers have read the following 1971 interview with Lennon done by CounterPunchers Tariq Ali and Robin Blackburn. It’s a lot more interesting that the interminable Q and A with Lennon done by Rolling Stone’s Jann Wenner. Tariq and Robin allowed Lennon to talk and spurred him on when he showed signs of flagging. Lennon recounts about how he and George Harrison bucked their handlers and went on record against the Vietnam War, discusses class politics in an engaging manner, defends country and western music and the blues, suggests Dylan’s best songs stem from revolutionary Irish and Scottish ballads and dissects his three versions of “Revolution”. The interview ran in The Red Mole, a Trotskyist sheet put out by the British arm of the Fourth International. As you’ll see, those were different days.

    Where is the Red Mole now.  The Ministry of Defense and Offense is seeking any intel on the red mole and his other rodent supporters.  We have a very important and extremely sensitive mission that must be accomplished with due diligence and extreme prejudice.  Please advise. 

    Minister of Offense and Defense

    though moving to CCST location very soon.

    Posted by  on  12/08  at  02:49 PM
  49. Bérubé in the lead 312 to 247. But don’t slack off now. We must triple the score of all losers in order to win decisively. That’s the 3Tops Rule.

    Posted by Bill Benzon  on  12/08  at  03:54 PM
  50. We must triple the score of all losers in order to win decisively. That’s the 3Tops Rule.

    And project overweening confidence at all times!  With the help of Rove Rays, of course.

    Posted by Michael  on  12/08  at  04:25 PM
  51. But you gotta’ be careful with them rovers. They can become habit forming.

    Posted by Bill Benzon  on  12/08  at  05:54 PM
  52. wtb.jpg border=0

    Posted by The guy who's writing Charles' dreams for tonight  on  12/08  at  05:58 PM
  53. Less than a hour until I get to vote again!  Which brings up an ethical dilemma.  So naturally, this is where I came to ask about it.


    What if you have a computer at home, and at work?  Is it left (right is wrong) to vote twice a day?

    (The word says ‘they’.  Does that mean they all do it?  Or they’re coming to get you if you don’t watch out?)

    Posted by ifthethunderdontgetya  on  12/08  at  08:40 PM
  54. Here’s what the Ivy people are telling their readers: Now go vote! Early, often, and from multiple computers!

    Bill Benzon
    Minister of Visual Propaganda

    Posted by Bill Benzon  on  12/08  at  09:35 PM
  55. Damn those Ivy People!  Of course, I just voted again (Berube 386, Ivy people 335 || Sadly, No! 894, the profoundly unfunny scrapiesface 618).

    P.S. Re: Ivy People.  I’m not necessarily “completely opposed”, they’re just too damn inclusive.  What’s the point of an ivory tower if you’re going to let knuckle draggers from Harvard in?


    Word: True!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted by ifthethunderdontgetya  on  12/08  at  10:03 PM
  56. Golly! It’s the blogospheric analog of the Many-worlds interpretation of quamtum mechanics on this web log today. Simultaneous parallel threads with subtle differences.

    I am sure there are many valuable cross-disciplinary insights waiting to be discovered. Someone should write it up and submit it to Social Text.

    Guarantee that ending, you got a deal.
    <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105151/"
    I guarantee it.</a>

    Posted by  on  12/09  at  12:13 AM
  57. Bérubé 490
    IvyGate 435
    SpunkyHomeSchool 273

    Posted by Bill Benzon  on  12/09  at  08:08 AM
  58. Something’s up!

    Bérubé 524
    IvyGate 497
    SpunkyHomeSchool 314

    Word: history

    Posted by ifthethunderdontgetya  on  12/09  at  12:36 PM
  59. IvyGate 539
    Me 538

    It’s on, folks.  I need your help.

    Posted by Michael  on  12/09  at  01:58 PM
  60. IvyGate 600
    Bérubé 579

    They may pull ahead, but the GNF will not fail, not now, not ever, forever live the GNF! Let’s toast ‘em!

    Posted by Bill Benzon  on  12/09  at  04:09 PM
  61. Gojira summons her inner resources:

    Soul of Gojira

    Posted by Bill Benzon  on  12/10  at  10:34 AM
  62. backlinks link exchange

    Posted by backlinks  on  12/17  at  06:04 PM





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