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that a mainstream-media hate campaign would lead to an act of terrorism.

Update:  Oh, and Ms. Neumann?

The right-wing blogosphere is defending O’Reilly by blaming ... the Obama administration.

John Aravosis, who blogs for AmericaBlog.com, wrote that this was all the president’s fault, because the administration withdrew a report warning about abortion protest violence.

Two things.  One, Aravosis isn’t actually part of the right-wing blogosphere, so, um, no.  And two, might it not be a good time to go back and actually look at that report?  As I recall, it sent legions of wingnuts into splittle-flecked frenzy by suggesting that “the current economic and political climate has some similiarities to the 1990s when rightwing extremism experienced a resurgence.” Maybe Aravosis has a point there somewhere, and maybe it might be worth the time to revisit the people who said the DHS report was a travesty.  Like this here bloviator:

Little more than a nine-page screed against phantoms, the report purports to address potential threats from religious and racial hate groups as well as “those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely.” The report also singles out for special consideration anti-abortion activists, gun owners, immigration opponents and, with allusion to Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh, returning veterans.

Yes, I know that last part is high treason.  But the report turned out to be kinda prescient about the first part, no?

Update update:  Randall Terry, just before inviting everyone out for some hot wings and a beer:

The point that must be emphasized over, and over, and over again: pro-life leaders and the pro-life movement are not responsible for George Tiller’s death. George Tiller was a mass-murderer and, horrifically, he reaped what he sowed.

Um, quite apart from the “we are totally not to blame for the fact that Tiller had it coming” locution here, can I ask about the phrase “George Tiller’s death”?  What did he “die” of?  Leukemia?  Heart failure?  Ripe old age?

Or maybe it was murder!  No, wait, the murderer was Tiller himself.  Got it.  Now for some crispy hot wings!

Posted by on 06/01 at 11:29 AM
  1. Boy if this were a “Law and Order” episode, the shooter would get off on some legal technicality then O’Reilly would get indicted for hate crimes.

    But it’s not.

    Posted by  on  06/01  at  01:07 PM
  2. Unfortunately, your analysis here is as accurate as your hockey analysis in the previous post (the “Pens better remember that goals are precious part or they’ll be in Real Trouble” more than the actual prediction—though there is still the Evilest Thing in Pandora’s Box).

    Posted by Ken Houghton  on  06/01  at  02:14 PM
  3. Thanks for that lovely video compilation of what Mike Hendricks, writing in the KC Star’s Prime Buzz blog, argues “the groups who spent decades fomenting hate toward” Tiller are “accomplices.” “Hate. Not heated opposition. Not strong disagreement. But blind hatred.”

    Now i see why the reichwingers were so adamantly opposed to hate crime legislation, along with the National Security Assessment.  They know that political assassination is an effective terror strategy to accomplish their agendas.  When do we get to say “NEVER AGAIN!!”

    Posted by  on  06/01  at  04:38 PM
  4. George Tiller was a mass-murderer and, horrifically, he reaped what he sowed.

    Harsh, but from a certain perspective--say Nietzschean, amoral, naturalist, etc--Terry, however rustic, has a point.  Tiller did allegedly kill viable, healthy kids, even a few days pre-delivery.  In certain circumstances--say a healthy Bio-mama decides a week before delivery she wants an A-bortion, just as like birth control (rare, but happens)-- Tiller the Killah would have pissed off some people (like Bio-papa, relatives, churchies, etc). Tiller’s murder may be unconscionable--that loud moralist O’Reilly certainly stirred thangs up--but not entirely unexpected. Now, hot wings and iced miller. Get ‘er done.

    Posted by Ezra Hound  on  06/01  at  05:44 PM
  5. The man in custody for the slaying of abortion doctor George Tiller was a member of an anti-government group in the 1990s and a staunch opponent of abortion.—lede to Kansas City Star story appearing in the Omaha World Herald, 1 June 2009

    More phantom screeding.

    Captcha: private. The right. Or possibly Private Scott Roeder, Kansas Unorganized Citizens Militia, ret.

    Posted by  on  06/01  at  05:56 PM
  6. Tiller did allegedly kill viable, healthy kids, even a few days pre-delivery. 

    Allegedly?  If only there were some way of finding out!

    Posted by  on  06/01  at  06:04 PM
  7. Allegedly?

    Did he, or didn’t he?  The blogocheks are of course spinning Tiller’s murder with the usual liberal-morali-tay attached: oh, Tiller was helping out poor mothers, neglected by the biblethumping nazis out in the heartland etc, but that’s only the lib-rawl spin.

    Another spin might be that Tiller was a desperate shyster preying on poor women who wanted out of unplanned pregnancies--or relationships with bio-dads--who may or may not have had a health emergency, yet decided to terminate as a type of birth control. That happens more frequently than some might imagine--specially out in Cali--but not usually part of the Demo’s aborto-narrative (btw, I’m for legal first trimester A’s--but at some point, like viability point, and assuming healthy mom and fetus, something like a contract kicks in)

    Posted by Ezra Hound  on  06/01  at  06:22 PM
  8. Typical story of this shyster preying on irresponsible women who just wanted “out”:


    Posted by  on  06/01  at  06:42 PM
  9. A couple blogochek vichycrat supporters spinning the story:

    Counterpunch (by D. Sweet of RCP front World Can’t Wait.)

    Socialist Worker.

    Posted by  on  06/01  at  06:49 PM
  10. I don’t doubt that Dr. Tiller performed a valuable service for the bio-mom in some cases where health was a concern, maybe most cases: yet is it ALL cases? That I doubt. (And I’m not saying his 187 was justifiable--merely understandable given a certain context).

    Posted by Ezra Hound  on  06/01  at  06:52 PM
  11. Unintentional shorter Randall Terry:

    “Pro-life leaders don’t kill doctors, people who listen to pro-life leaders kill doctors.”

    Posted by  on  06/01  at  07:11 PM
  12. Sheesh...two uninitentional self-sockpuppets in one day.

    Posted by  on  06/01  at  07:12 PM
  13. Yes, unini-tentionally, Storm-cow, the moral visionary. Taking some time off from the great moral discussions with the unfogged moral-mommies too, eh? cool.  (maybe review like Hume on fact/value distinction before the deeep normativity chat, or like making the mommies happy, eh)

    Really the Sweet rant does seem fairly vichycrat like, come to think of it.  Not once does she even approach something like an objective discussion, not even of the old-fashioned liberal rights chat.

    Yes, the murder was wrong. Doc Tiller may have been a decent chap (though he sounds a bit opportunistic really), and Terry’s.. er scary. Sweet’s not exactly providing an unbiased portrait, however, and the insistent whiny , moralistic tone doesn’t help her cause.  It’s not just a theocratic issue. Tiller was performing late term A’s, and some apparently involved healthy fetuses. That’s an issue.

    Posted by Ezra Hound  on  06/01  at  07:24 PM
  14. I saw this suggested elsewhere and would like to post it here. A good way to remember Tiller’s life and work is a donation to Medical Students for Choice.

    Posted by John Protevi  on  06/01  at  07:50 PM
  15. (And I’m not saying his 187 was justifiable--merely understandable given a certain context).
    The same could be said about the Pentagon and the World Trade Center. 
    I wouldn’t want to make that argument.

    Posted by  on  06/01  at  08:10 PM
  16. "some apparently involved healthy fetuses”

    Would you say they were as apparently healthy as Terry Schiavo was apparently conscious?  There are certainly few things so dignified as unnecessarily suffering immense pain, or death, in support of a primitive myth about a sadistic god and his rebellious son--except, perhaps, murdering what there is no doubt is a “person” or “life” or “human being” on behalf of said myth?  Go life! Go life! Go life!

    You’re right about one thing, though, it isn’t just a theocratic issue--depending on who you talk to, it may also include misogynistic, paternalistic, sadistic, masochistic, baby-fetishistic, and/or illogic issues.

    Captcha:  “hell,” as in, what these horrible people are trying to make life into, so that death truly does deliver them to heaven.  As most authoritarian institutions of power have figured out, the best prophesies are the self-fulfilling ones.

    Posted by  on  06/01  at  09:02 PM
  17. Hey, just because I’m a George Tiller skeptic doesn’t mean I’m down with one of yr dreaded GOP foes.  The important thing is spitting in the eye of the usual liberal-morali-tay, not that that motive has anything in common with people who actually think Randall Terry has a point, even though btw imho Randall Terry has a point.

    Posted by  on  06/01  at  09:35 PM
  18. Michael, signature notwithstanding, that’s not you at #17 above.

    Posted by  on  06/01  at  09:52 PM
  19. Ssssh, Josh!  It’s a pastiche.

    Posted by  on  06/01  at  10:01 PM
  20. I was told that French wasn’t a prereq for this blog. What a farrago of deception!

    Posted by  on  06/01  at  10:33 PM
  21. Ssssh, Josh!  It’s a pastiche.

    Needs more ad hominem, perhaps a misspelling of “Randall,” and ideally a defense of Lysenkoism.  Just sayin’.

    Posted by  on  06/01  at  10:54 PM
  22. I was told that French wasn’t a prereq for this blog. What a farrago of deception!

    Indeed! A rodomontade of obfuscation!* A periwinkle of peripeteia!** Michael Bérubé is a master of obviation!***

    *Actual quote from ratemyprofessors.com on MB.

    **From frontpagemag.com

    ** h/t Fitz

    Posted by John Protevi  on  06/01  at  10:59 PM
  23. John Protevi, who presumes to dismiss his betters on matters climatological, can’t count to three, as the asterisks in 22. prove beyond the shadow of a doubt.

    Captcha: “space” as in, “watch this --”.

    Posted by  on  06/01  at  11:04 PM
  24. Er, I, well, um, uh, ... I was doing that to see if anyone was paying attention. Honest.

    Posted by John Protevi  on  06/01  at  11:23 PM
  25. That’s what I tell my students, too wink

    Posted by  on  06/01  at  11:39 PM
  26. Michael, asterisks notwithstanding, that’s not me at #22 above.

    I will presume that it’s a fromage.

    Posted by  on  06/01  at  11:40 PM
  27. By the way, though flippancy could be considered inappropriate given the post’s subject matter, I feel I have spent enough time grinding my teeth to stumps amongst the self-righteous anti-choicers at Obsidian Wings.  So by the time Randall Terry, the violence-promoting adulterer who even managed to fracture Operation Rescue, appeared as someone worth asking an opinion of, I decided it was much healthier to just laugh hysterically until blessed unconsciousness comes.  And that was before the Guinness ‘n’ wings bit.

    Posted by  on  06/01  at  11:47 PM
  28. I don’t want to ignore the captcha because it speaks volumes in so many ways.  Human beings have the capacity to use ART to obscure reality, to cover it, to reconstruct it, to hide it, to justify it.  I refuse to accept any art that attempts to paint another human being as one who deserves to be killed for “his” compassionate approach to other actual human beings, no matter how many words are used.

    Posted by  on  06/02  at  12:00 AM
  29. as spyder says the captcha speaks volumes.

    in this particular comment the captcha is “wrong”

    I guess I’ll leave it as that.

    Posted by  on  06/02  at  12:06 AM
  30. There is nothing more opportunist that a family practitioner who only becomes such because he takes over his dad’s practice after most of his family dies.  Also, he had to fight TWO count ‘em TWO other clinics in the entire US just to be king of this procedure. 

    Food for your thought.

    Posted by Pinko Punko  on  06/02  at  02:00 AM
  31. Hey PP, you can’t afford my tastes.

    Posted by  on  06/02  at  02:37 AM
  32. You know, I wish people would not post comments when they are drunk.

    Posted by Hattie  on  06/02  at  03:13 AM
  33. 30: you know what you are?? yr an ah-bor-shun

    Hey Lay-deez--Doc Tiller here. Are you knocked up, but with health problems, love problems, money problems? Come on down to Aborto-mart. For a mere $4999.00--that’s right 49-99--we can safely and quickly abort that unwanted child.  Financing available. Call today!

    Posted by Ezra Hound  on  06/02  at  09:41 AM
  34. Ah, global warming denial plus George Tiller mockery.  That’s kind of an unbeatable combo!

    You know, I don’t think the term “Monty Python Left” quite covers this.  I think we need to give Ezra a designation all his own.

    Posted by Michael  on  06/02  at  10:08 AM
  35. Hey Lay-deez--Ezra Hound here.  Are you knocked up, but with health problems, love problems, money problems?  Well don’t come looking to me to adopt your unwanted offspring.  And you better get a second job to pay for their care, because I can’t have one more cent of my paycheck going to something so vulgar as nenonatal care when there are SDIs to be developed!

    Posted by  on  06/02  at  10:13 AM
  36. Loathesome creep works for me.

    Posted by  on  06/02  at  10:18 AM
  37. No AGW denial, MB--skepticism about C02 as culprit (a point even Monbiot granted). You however seem to think we should trust Big Al Gore over say Cockburn, Rancourt, Crichton, Freeman Dyson, many others.  Cockburn staged a debate on Counterpunch, anyway, and did not merely deny AGW in some Fox News style. Much evidence was provided, links to atmospheric physicists. (Did you make it through the Hug paper, or Rancourt’s essay, Sir? Or are they just wrong, because, like they’re cranks who dared to question GoreCo/IPCC). Mann’s models--simulation, really, not physics, or chemistry-- have themselves been called into question for possible bias ("results are inconclusive, so we need a few more hundred thousand...shekels to try to make them conclusive").

    Re abortion: what would GWF Hegel say, MB? Or Marx himself. That babe in the womb’s not just Esmeralda’s propertay: the State arguably owns, or should own the neo-nate. The idea that the individual bio-mom has ultimate vetoing power itself over a child’s life rather booj-wah--a species of bourgeois ethics-- don’t you think Maestro? That may be a future Soldier--Major Zhukov, or an intellectual worker--a Comrade Bogdanov, or even Einstein. Abortion serves as a rallying cry for the apostles of bourgeois freedom--including feminists--but the more learned comrade understands the shallow superficiality of that liberal freedom.

    Posted by Ezra Hound  on  06/02  at  10:27 AM
  38. I know I’ve been perhaps worse than anyone here on this, but it might be time to DNFTT. Don’t think of this as benevolence, though. Sad lonely creatures want attention, and ignoring them is the most painful punishment you can devise, as it forces them back onto their sadness and loneliness. What could be worse, indeed, than to live like they do?

    Posted by John Protevi  on  06/02  at  10:28 AM
  39. Grazi #36. Read the above post, missy, that is when you get over the morning’s bout of Righteous Indignation-lite.

    Posted by Ezra Hound  on  06/02  at  10:29 AM
  40. Dissent, MB. That means the right to dissent from the zombie-crat views on abortion (or the biblethumping GOP for that matter), as well their views on AGW, when there are sound reasons to do so.  Of course, dissent tends to piss off soi-disant leftists such as Debra Sweets (that said, I don’t disagree with all of her points, but with the tone of her shrieks)—maybe Zizek might have something to say about that.

    (Thanks for evidence, Putevia (and your morning fallacy: how shocking). You’re no counselor, either, just like you’re not a philosopher, little man. You’re not just sad and lonely, but pathetic, Pinkslippia. Capiche? Cool)

    Posted by Ezra Hound  on  06/02  at  10:45 AM
  41. Ah, the Lonely Dissenter From Liberal Orthodoxy bit.  That’s a new one.

    Posted by Michael  on  06/02  at  10:49 AM
  42. Yes, it’s unfortunate that demos have bought the Gore/IPCC/Line on AGW/man made CO2 across the board (as have “green” GOPers, like McCain), .  One’s tempted to say that shows something like bourgeois consciousness--or Herd Mind--but I don’t want to upset anyone. The facts of AGW (especially regarding CO2) are not all in. Most gw experts would agree (not all, however--see Rancourt) the temp. data shows significant rising temps. What led to that an entirely different matter which modellers can’t really address.

    (and as I said, first trimester abortion should be legal, or even later if health problems (though perhaps A, after first tri. entail a fine /charge, 2nd sterilization). But Im not for the ultimate Mom veto--Mom can do anything until her kids are like 5 years old (including moider, according to phraudosopher Peter Singer)-- the rallying cry of the abortocrats)

    Posted by Ezra Hound  on  06/02  at  11:15 AM
  43. "the facts of AGW are not all in”

    so let’s do nothing about it until the facts are all in???? hmmm…

    I think a case can be made that burning fossil fuels for energy is a bad strategy independent of the effect/non-effect on GW. Not the least of which is that if you calculated the “true cost” of oil and attributed all the money we spend on “defense” of the middle eastern petro-assets, some other sources wind/solar/nuclear look significantly better from an economic perspective.

    And if it happens to have a positive impact on GW so much the better.


    captcha “called” as in “nobody answered when I called your name”

    Posted by  on  06/02  at  11:58 AM
  44. Speaking purely for myself, I would ask that you not get into that in this thread, Tarabour.  There’s an ABF post for that if you’re still interested.

    (Despite the official-sounding request, this is not Professor Bérubé at #44).

    Posted by  on  06/02  at  12:04 PM
  45. mds,

    Perhaps you should address that to professor Hound. I was only responding to his pontification. God forbid, we should allow his “herd-mind” meme to gain credence by inaction.

    Posted by  on  06/02  at  12:24 PM
  46. Somebody needs to put up a “Don’t Feed the Trolls” sign.  I guess that would be me.  Although, this post itself might be considered to be passive-aggressive feeding.

    Posted by Russell60  on  06/02  at  12:48 PM
  47. And I keep forgetting whether it’s “feed a troll, starve a fever” or the other way around.

    Posted by Michael  on  06/02  at  12:50 PM
  48. Correction: my comment (#46), not the post, constitutes the passive-aggressive feeding.

    Posted by Russell60  on  06/02  at  12:59 PM
  49. Well if we’re going to be passive-aggressive, I guess I should say I’m not hurt that Russell60 didn’t acknowledge my call in 39 to DNFTT.

    Posted by John Protevi  on  06/02  at  01:07 PM
  50. Where’s the trolling, MB? Nada mas que El Razon.  Perhaps anyone who disagrees with like GoreCo/IPCC, or Debra Sweet falls in class of “Trollness” --and you’re on your way to J-Edgarish greatness ala DailyKOS.  (troll btw was old geekspeak early 90s invented by microsoft dweebs on BBs, now in use by demopublicans everywhere). 

    Dr. Tiller’s death was unfortunate, and we have ample reasons to be concerned about the hysterical anti-abortionists. Regardless, Tiller was no hero, anymore than any back-alley abortionist is.  He may have assisted some mothers with health problems, yet at same time he filled a niche, taking advantage of the lack of family planning services, birth education out in the heartland. He did run an Aborto-mart, more or less (Doc Tiller’s located conveniently right off the I-90, free parkin,’ 1-800-ABO-TION)

    In a more efficient, ethical society, Tillers would be superfluous--for the State would moderate pregnancy (not merely the mamacita’s decision, but like an A-Clinic tribunal--physicians, psych. people, maybe even a Peter Singer type), abort in first few weeks if necessary, or mandate sterilization (and mandate that some females carry children to term, and indeed to healthy productive lives for the State).

    Posted by Ezra Hound  on  06/02  at  01:08 PM
  51. Sorry, John, I didn’t recognize the acronym, even though the words surrounding it provided ample clues.

    Posted by Russell60  on  06/02  at  01:16 PM
  52. Another thing, Mikey: I guess you’re simply saying all theological readings of abortion are mistaken, Comrade?  That’s cool, but like at least acknowledge that some humans (yes, mostly foo’s), believe something like a soul exists, that killing that human-soul entails a crime, that a Protevi-like moral relativism-lite is blasphemy, so forth.  Even Rene Descartes deserves a few moments of respect (capiche, Putevi?) before being consigned to the virtual gulag.

    Posted by Ezra Hound  on  06/02  at  01:29 PM
  53. Not to worry, Russell60, I was just riffing on your 46 and 48.

    Posted by John Protevi  on  06/02  at  01:33 PM
  54. Perhaps you should address that to professor Hound.

    Yes, because that would certainly work, wouldn’t it?  In this thread, I would agree with Messrs. Protevi and Russell60 that Do Not Feed The Trolls is a better strategy.  Just below in ABF Friday, there has been a rollicking thread on global warming denialism.  However, the vile unsupportable characterization of Dr. Tiller would suggest shunning as warranted here.  But of course, do as you think you must.  I am not the boss of you.  [DOUBLE-CHECKS] Nope.  Still no minions.

    Anyhow, what do people think is the best strategy about this domestic terrorism issue going forward?  Various sources are already claiming that either the Obama administration offed Dr. Tiller as a distraction, or that at the very least he will unfairly use it as a pretext to crack down on groups that have repeatedly incited and employed violence against abortion providers.  Quelle horreur!*

    *Sorry, JP Stormcrow.

    Posted by  on  06/02  at  02:34 PM
  55. Yo Mikey, I did enjoy your site once, like, before the puercas de zion and hillarycrats seized control.  muy Trieste. Buena Suerte, Mike-berg

    (hey mdsokov: chinga tu madre, zion-puerca. Is that troll enough for ya, satanist?? That goes for Putevi and the rest of the neo-con basura Ay ay. And even ol red Alex C agrees ,most likely)

    Posted by Ezra Hound  on  06/02  at  02:54 PM
  56. mds, I’m not sure what the long-term strategy against domestic terrorism should be, but at least one element should be to call it by that name.

    In the short run, concerning Tiller’s murder, we have the donate to a pro-choice organization option. Here’s a list from Feministe.

    I recommended Medical Students for Choice, but there are other ones of course.

    Posted by John Protevi  on  06/02  at  03:50 PM
  57. As mds notes, lots of the “discussion” of this topic creates a need for healing laughter.  Which s/he (;>wink kindly provided with the fromage line at 26.

    But, wiping my eyes and returning to the question of how to respond, I find considerable guidance in the good old Quaker slogan: War is not the answer. 

    The anti-abortion movement as a political entity (as distinct from individuals with anti-abortion views) wants to coerce and control women and women’s sexuality.  Its extremist fringe is waging a literal war to do so. 

    Gearing up into a war mentality in response is not the way to go.  What we need now is a lot of calm, public reaffirmation and concrete support of women’s right to choose.

    So, thank you, John, for the links.  We all probably have friends and co-workers who are clenched up about this; I’d encourage them to read Digby’s excellent piece here.

    Posted by Nell  on  06/02  at  07:01 PM
  58. And thank you, Nell, for for the perspective.  Well, most of it, anyway.  Will no one rid me of this meddlesome gender ambiguity?*

    *Henry II has been on my mind lately.  I keep running through a scenario where he spends decades repeating “Will no one rid me of these meddlesome priests?” And as the latest priest killed by his knights is flung onto Eric Idle’s cart, Henry says “What are you looking at me for?” then goes out for ale and goose legs.

    Posted by  on  06/02  at  07:45 PM
  59. You are right, Nell, that we need public affirmation of a woman’s right to choose. We should also remind everyone that Kansas law required another physician to certify that the operation as medically necessary, and that Tiller was tried twice for violating that law and was acquitted both times. (I am putting this together from bits and pieces I have read from reliable sources and am looking for a single source that we can refer people to on these points. Any suggestions for links would be much appreciated.)

    Posted by John Protevi  on  06/02  at  08:00 PM
  60. Will no one rid me of this meddlesome gender ambiguity?

    This looks like a job for . . . Digby!

    But seriously, mds, I can’t believe you have the incredibly poor taste to politicize the death of Thomas a Becket in this way, so soon after the event, and besides he had it coming.

    Posted by Michael  on  06/02  at  08:11 PM
  61. Mmmmmm, goose legs.  I like ‘em crispy and a little spicy.

    Captcha: across, as in “The Red Wings are skating across my teevee screen.” Gotta go.

    Posted by Nell  on  06/02  at  08:19 PM
  62. Sorry, JP Stormcrow.

    Pas de problème! I’ve been busy with my work on the Mid-States Bourgeois Herd Mentality Central Coördinating Committee (MSBHMCCC). Google Earth revealed some piss-poor herd behavior last summer, so MSBHMCCC will be enforcing the following daily agenda:

    6:30 am—Wakeup, milling about
    7:00 am—Assemble at stream
    7:30 am—Grazing (no straggling, keep a tight herd pattern!)
    10:00 am—Nap
    11:30 am—Midday stream break
    12:30 pm—Assemble under shade tree
    1:00 pm—2-Minute Moral Outrage
    1:02 pm—Nap
    3:00 pm—Coordinated lowing in support of DNC intitatives
    4:00 pm—Grazing
    6:00 pm—Evening stream break
    7:00 pm—Individual lowing (content must adhere to MSBHMCCC guidelines)
    7:30 pm—Bed time

    Posted by  on  06/02  at  09:12 PM
  63. Not to pick nits or anything JP, but I think you omitted the 1-minute drum solo that immediately precedes the 2-minute moral outrage.

    Posted by  on  06/02  at  09:42 PM
  64. What about snackytime?  How the hell is Little Debbie going to make it in this tough economic climate if we don’t have snackytime?  Cruelty!

    This reminds me of a little story.  One time, I was walking my homunculus in the park, and this guy came up and was all, “Hey you can’t bring that thing in here!” and then he started glaring at me like nobody’s business and talking about how much he could bench press and stuff.  So I asked, “What do you have against this poor homunculus anyway, Muscles McGee?” and he just kept glaring, so I kissed him, and he turned into a handsome prince!  A handsome prince who, sadly, was then eaten by my monarchy hating homunculus.

    The circle of life.  Kind of makes you cry, doesn’t it?

    Posted by  on  06/02  at  10:27 PM
  65. Well, it turns out that the healing gift of laughter also works wonders for recovering from the experience of seeing crispy hot Wings devoured by penguins.

    Posted by Nell  on  06/02  at  10:42 PM
  66. Comrade Scarecrow,

    ‘Nother nit: don’t see scheduled mud slogging.
    Is it assumed there is mud by the stream?

    Captcha: congress. How lambs are made.

    Posted by  on  06/02  at  10:48 PM
  67. 63,66: Look, you’ve got it all wrong! Within the guiding principles of the MSBHMCCC, any individual is free to initiate any conforming activity that does not disrupt the tight herd pattern or other community value. Drum or slog to your heart’s content. You don’t NEED to follow the MSBHMCCC*. You don’t NEED to follow ANYBODY! You’ve got to think for your selves! You’re ALL individuals!

    *Other than as codified in the MSBHMCCC charter, guiding principles, and the assorted ukases, edicts, decrees (or other instruments) that may be issued from time to time. Additionally, no activity that may be construed as a potential threat to the maintenance of a tight herd pattern will be tolerated or condoned. Failure to report the activities of others that may be construed as a potential threat to the maintenance of a tight herd pattern is itself considered an activity that may be construed as a potential threat to the maintenance of a tight herd pattern under this provision.

    Posted by  on  06/02  at  11:59 PM
  68. Glad you men have gotten everything straightened out so nicely.

    Posted by Hattie  on  06/03  at  12:32 AM
  69. MSBHMCCC?!?!  Oh no, after this lengthy comment thread (which I have abstained thus far from joining--but no more!!!), we have somehow found our way back to anarcho-syndicalist communes!  I shall not stand for this scheduled milling about and gathering at “streams.” When will we learn that “supreme executive power derives from a mandate of the masses not from some farcical aquatic ceremony”?

    Posted by Derek T.  on  06/03  at  01:07 AM
  70. No YOU are an abortion!

    Also, wow, a medical procedure costing money, what next, a hamburger????/Wimpy

    Posted by Jimmy Connors  on  06/03  at  02:04 AM
  71. A moment of silence, please. 3Tops has taken her place in the ever-lasting glory of the GNF.

    Ashes to ashes
    Paint to paint
    Where 3Tops was
    Now 3Tops ain’t

    All hail 3Tops!

    Posted by Bill Benzon  on  06/03  at  08:57 AM
  72. Glad you men have gotten everything straightened out so nicely.

    Well, we appreciate the vote of confidence, but we obviously aren’t clear on what the best strategy… Hang on, this was sarcasm, wasn’t it?

    Regardless, since they probably have real lives, I will offer thanks for this observation on behalf of Nell and Oaktown Girl.  Apparently gender ambiguity is contagious.  Also, I was going to take Professor Protevi’s suggestion about donating to Medical Students for Choice, but now I realize I’m too flippant and male for that.  [Please don’t take this seriously, folks.  Donate if you can.]

    Also also, I’m posting this while drunk.  So there.

    Posted by  on  06/03  at  09:15 AM
  73. 71: Life in the big city. But I can still see the tops of one horn and the neck plate, so maybe she’s a 2Tops now.

    Posted by  on  06/03  at  10:43 AM
  74. 73,69: What I meant to say was, “Sad but inevitable due to the violence inherent in the system”.

    Posted by  on  06/03  at  10:52 AM
  75. 3Tops has taken her place in the ever-lasting glory of the GNF.

    Well, that sucks.  Sic transit gloria 3Tops.

    Posted by Michael  on  06/03  at  11:07 AM
  76. You however seem to think we should trust Big Al Gore over say Cockburn, Rancourt, Crichton, Freeman Dyson, many others.

    Was that one of those “arguments from authority” I’ve heard about? Because, um, there’s a problem…

    I may have been confused by the hypercute prose and random language-mixing, though.

    *shrug* C’est la cheese!

    Posted by  on  06/03  at  12:09 PM
  77. I posted it over there, but I’ll repost it here:

    3Tops - she’s immortal in our hearts and in the WAAGNFNP. I’m forever grateful you discovered her and recruited her for us, Bill.

    Long Live that beautiful face of the WAAGNFNP’s Ministry of Justice!

    Posted by  on  06/03  at  12:17 PM
  78. Hattie,

    It’s basically all just pissing on fire hydrants after all. But that’s how the west was won, skyscrapers were built, the atomic bomb was developed etc. etc. At least we have that to show for it.

    Posted by  on  06/03  at  12:54 PM
  79. impermanence of art, and all that

    Posted by  on  06/03  at  01:42 PM





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